Monday, February 8, 2010

.30 Calibre(bore) hand guns are used? Is it true that .30 Calibre is not accurate?

.30 (7.62x25 Tokarev and 7.63x25 Mauser) are VERY accurate rounds. These are the original light and fast bullets. They have very high muzzle velocity (1300-1400 ft/s) and energy (350-400 ft lb). Penetration is therefore very good.


The trajectory is flat, which makes this round accurate even at long range (as far as pistol rounds go).


Stopping power is lacking, however, due to the light bullet (85-90gr) and full metal jacket.


I don't imagine the caliber is very popular in the USA, as the pistols are not usually chambered for this round here.


You can get surplus Tokarev TT-33 for cheap, or collector Broomhandle Mauser (C-96) for a lot of $$$..30 Calibre(bore) hand guns are used? Is it true that .30 Calibre is not accurate?
No, because its not popular %26amp; not a great self defense caliber or Hunting caliber.*.30 Calibre(bore) hand guns are used? Is it true that .30 Calibre is not accurate?
Most modern handguns are as accurate as the shooter. The only .30 caliber (or calibre, if you prefer) handgun I can think of, off hand, is the old Ruger single-action revolver chambered in .30 US M-1 carbine cartridge. Louder than a .44 Mag. but not inaccurate. There were old German pistols too, chambered for a .30 caliber bottle neck cartridge. I'm sure they are accurate but I've had no experience with them.





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.22 is cheap, not too loud and has very low recoil.


.38s are carry-overs from when the standard military and police round was the .38 Special.


The military gave up the .38 for the .45 because it demonstrated a lack of stopping power.


The .44 Magnum was an attempt, and quite a successful one, to jack up the numbers of the old .44 Special/.44-40/45 Colt class of cartridges.


The 9 mm is not a great improvement over the .38, which is actually a .35, or .357, which is a juiced-up .38 Special.


.32 calibers had a bit of popularity at times, but again, a little lacking in stopping power if you really need that.


The .41 Magnum was designed for people who can't quite handle the .44 and wanted more than the .357 gave.





.30 calibers in general are not a lot cheaper to shoot than something heavier and definitely do not have the pure stopping power of something that begins with a 4.





I hope that answered at least part of what you were wondering about.
I have a CZ-52 and a Tokarov TT-33 in 7.62 X 25 and they perform well for what they are...the round is hot enough that many vests won't stop them - police in Thailand had special vests made. Not a tack driver [at least for me], they will do what they were designed to do.
What?
accuratcy is from gun ,,ammo,,,and shooter....why no 30,,,who knows??? 22, 25,,32,,38,,9 mm...which is 38..357...also 38..40,,10 mm,,41,,44,,45,,isnt that enough 4 you...best wishes
Sorry.....But you need to be more specific. I have no idea what you are talking about or referring to....What guns specifically?
I have tried over the years to keep my pistols and rifles in common, easy to get calibers. Pistols: .38, 357mag, 9mm, .45acp. Rifle: 30-06, 30-30, .223, 7.62x39. I try to keep away from exotics and odd calibers. Too pricey and hard to get. Also, repairs and parts for the weapons that fire them can be expensive if not almost impossible.
30 calibers? The 7.65 browning is about a .31, the 32 H%26amp;R magnum and old .32 S%26amp;W also closer to .31 than 32. Later production .32 S%26amp;W often had half jacketed .308 bullets, H%26amp;R jacketed bullet is also smaller than lead bullet. 32-20 was used in old Colt large frame revolvers withabout a .314 bullet, some of the medium double action frames also chambered - 80 grain flatnose high velocity bullet was known as good defense load - this was originally the rifle load. Charter arms still marketing their snub in six shot .32 H%26amp;R loading now- same frames as 5 shot .38. Ruger also had .32 in the .22 mag frame advertised. 32 target revolvers exist, known to be quite accurate, less recoil than .38 so good for matches and practice where lot of rounds fired and worried about wrist fatigue. .32, 7.65 out of favor in US by people who believe must have a minimum of 9mm for carry. European users still carrying 7.65 and .32 revolvers- some have laws making 9 mms difficult to get for civilian use. I used to carry 7.65 Webley 1910 or a .32 Iver Johnson driving cab- felt reasonably comfortable with guns I had fired enough to know what they could do. H%26amp;R 732 with 2.5 barrel was another discrete carry pistol used on motorcycle- it fit in tool bag recess in fuel tank. Kel-tec .32 sells fairly good.
Who the hell said .30 cal is inaccurate?





Shoot him with it and I guarantee he will change his tune.

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